
In conversation with Kate Raworth, Indy Johar and James Lock
We face a complex entanglement of crises – economic, social and environmental – and the coming decade will test our collective ability to respond. But by working together, we can chart sustainable social and ecological paths to safeguard human and more-than-human life on this planet.
Activists and academics have offered many visions of the future, from good growth, green growth and deep green to post-growth and degrowth. Each presents a different pathway, yet the deeper question is not just which future we choose, but how we build the shared reasoning necessary to navigate these choices together.

Bridging from the Necessary to the Possible with Emily Harris of Dark Matter Labs - Accidental Gods #176
If the present system is broken – and is in fact the heart of the meta-crisis – how can we transform peacefully to something that will work to create the future we’d want to leave behind?
That’s the core question of this podcast and so it was with great joy, that I found Dark Matter Labs. DML says of itself, “We’re working to create institutions, instruments and infrastructures for a more equitable, caring and sustainable future.

Becoming Intentional Gods: Claiming the future with Indy Johar of the Dark Matter Labs - Accidental Gods #205
We are at a moment of decision: We either step forward into our own Great Destruction, which could theoretically see us wipe out all of humanity and most of the More than Human World…Or we could step into what Indy Johar calls ‘The Great Peace’, claiming our birthright as the Interstitial Generation between the old paradigm of extraction, consumption and pollution—and the new one that could arise where we accept the interbecoming of all things, where we as individual humans take our place in a community of care and experience that encompasses all of the world.
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